#archlinux32 | Logs for 2018-04-09
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[06:24:27] <girls> eduardoeae_: ah, that case is not (yet) implemented: packages moving between [extra], [core] and [community]
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[08:41:14] <buildmaster> girls, my database is dirty again ...
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[10:20:55] <deep42thought> FYI: master mirror is currently down - I'm switching the disk to raid1 (and mounting it ro, therefore, - thus the containers don't boot)
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[12:26:52] <deep42thought> hmm, my packager-key expires in three days - do I need to re-sign everything with my new key?
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[13:48:27] <tyzoid> deep42thought: I signed it and sent it up.
[13:48:37] <tyzoid> a --recieve-keys should pull the sig down
[13:48:52] <deep42thought> tyzoid: which keyserver?
[13:49:09] <tyzoid> both the default gpg pool, and pgp.mit.edu
[13:49:31] <deep42thought> hmm, it's not there, yet - but we got some time anyway
[13:49:37] <deep42thought> the master mirror is still copying ...
[13:49:46] <tyzoid> I can email it to you if you'd prefer to get the sig quicker
[13:49:47] <deep42thought> thanks, btw
[13:49:54] <deep42thought> no, it's ok
[13:50:45] <deep42thought> while gpg --receive-keys 5FDCA4 2>&1 | grep unchanged; do sleep 5; done
[13:51:17] <deep42thought> let's see, when it appears ;-)
[13:53:08] <tyzoid> Just sent the email. My master keys are going offline, so I wanted to make sure you got it.
[13:53:32] <deep42thought> thanks, got it
[13:54:46] <deep42thought> let's see if the update-keys script swallows it ...
[13:58:01] <deep42thought> it does!
[14:07:28] <Vollzornbrot> deep42thought: are you here?
[14:07:33] <deep42thought> Vollzornbrot: yes
[14:07:45] <Vollzornbrot> i must reboot my root, can you shutdown the vms?
[14:07:54] <deep42thought> yes, gimme a sec
[14:08:05] <Vollzornbrot> you have time ;)
[14:08:12] <deep42thought> "No route to host" - I cannot
[14:08:26] <Vollzornbrot> oO
[14:09:07] <deep42thought> btw: your vpe-cert expired
[14:09:18] <Vollzornbrot> god dammit
[14:09:25] <Vollzornbrot> fuuuuuuu!
[14:09:34] <Vollzornbrot> ok gimme little time....
[14:09:38] <deep42thought> np
[14:09:42] <deep42thought> I just added an exception
[14:09:57] <deep42thought> should I add it to my watch list and notify you in advance?
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[16:18:15] <tyzoid> deep42thought / girls: I'm going to be doing a migration of srv0's services over to srv1 over the next few days.
[16:18:20] <tyzoid> There might be about 1hr of downtime of the bugtracker during the transition, but forum, news, and mirror should have no downtime.
[16:18:42] <tyzoid> Any downtime would be tomorrow evening (probably around midnight UTC)
[16:21:47] <tyzoid> deep42thought / girls: The only thing I think you'd need to do on your side would be to add srv1.tyzoid.com to the SPF allowed senders for archlinux32.org
[16:21:56] <tyzoid> I'll be migrating the existing dkim keys
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[17:23:07] <deep42thought> tyzoid: spf has now both your servers
[17:23:23] <deep42thought> let me know, when you decomission srv0 and I'll delete its ip address from the record
[17:43:57] <tyzoid> deep42thought: I'm unlikely to decommission it completely. The migration is to get core services off so I can install a hypervisor on the other server.
[17:44:04] <tyzoid> At some point, I'll migrate certain services back
[17:44:15] <tyzoid> Not sure which ones at this time, but depends on resource utilization
[17:44:23] <tyzoid> srv0 has more cpu/ram, whereas srv1 has more disk space
[17:44:40] <tyzoid> but step 1 is to migrate off, and create vms/containers
[18:19:52] <deep42thought> ok, so I'll keep both ips in spf, so you can send mails from both
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[18:31:13] <tyzoid> deep42thought: You want logs from when titus was offline?
[18:31:26] <deep42thought> yes, please
[18:31:38] <deep42thought> maybe I find the time to format them nicely ;-)
[18:31:59] <tyzoid> At this rate, we might need a script to convert my logs to the output format :P
[18:32:08] <deep42thought> I have a script
[18:32:16] <deep42thought> but it does not yet swallow your format
[18:32:34] <deep42thought> it accepts pidgin's format and the one, eschwartz gave me sometime in the past
[18:33:05] <deep42thought> it also adjusts the time stamps, adds links, colors usernames, etc.
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[20:38:34] <tyzoid> Copying gigs of symlinks is taking a long time, for some reason /s
[20:41:16] <deep42thought> tyzoid: same is true for tons of hardlinks (= my backups)
[20:43:15] <tyzoid> yeah, but rsync seemed to go faster for hardlinks
[20:47:32] <deep42thought> tyzoid: logs are repaired, you can delete your files, if you like to
[20:47:39] <tyzoid> sounds good
[21:09:17] * deep42thought wonders which packager should sign the new archlinux32-keyring in order to still allow transition and in order to allow updating the package cleanly
[21:13:42] <deep42thought> my old key is only valid for 3 more day, the new key is also a bad idea, abaumann's key is not in archlinux32-transition, and I'm not really sure about tyzoid's key, either
[21:14:32] <deep42thought> safest choice is probably to let abaumann build/sign the new archlinux32-keyring package and add a "install this old archlinux32-keyring package from the archive" step to the transition instructions
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[21:44:27] <buildmaster> girls, my database is dirty again ...
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[22:05:44] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Do you need me to sign the keyring?
[22:05:56] <tyzoid> Mine is valid too
[22:06:07] <deep42thought> yes, would be nice
[22:06:20] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Should I sign with my packager key? Or master key?
[22:06:35] <tyzoid> I'd imagine just the packager key.
[22:06:53] <deep42thought> packager key only
[22:07:10] <tyzoid> Ok. I'll sign the existing transition package
[22:07:14] <deep42thought> no
[22:07:22] <tyzoid> not transition package, I mean keyring
[22:07:28] <deep42thought> the new archlinux32-keyring needs to be signed
[22:07:34] <tyzoid> Oh, right
[22:07:37] <deep42thought> I'm not sure, that it is built already
[22:08:01] <deep42thought> it's not yet built
[22:08:04] <tyzoid> Ok, let me know when you've built it.
[22:08:09] <deep42thought> 20180409
[22:08:15] <deep42thought> will do
[22:08:35] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Technically, if you have abaumann's slaves build it, then it'd just work, right?
[22:08:43] <tyzoid> Can you send a package just to his slave?
[22:09:03] <tyzoid> Though yeah, I guess that fails the transition keys
[22:09:32] <deep42thought> the old buildmaster could
[22:09:43] <deep42thought> the new will cancel the job if the slave does not take it within 5 minutes
[22:13:27] <tyzoid> gpg: key B61DBCE10901C163: public key "Balló György <ballogyor@gmail.com>" imported
[22:13:27] <tyzoid> gpg: key A50C0F20AEC3AF00: public key "Polichronucci (Arch Linux 32 Master Key) <polichronucci@archlinux.gr>" imported
[22:13:28] <tyzoid> gpg: key B1117BC1094EA6E9: public key "Erich Eckner <deep42thought@archlinux32.org>" imported
[22:13:28] <tyzoid> gpg: key 3D06644243BF68D3: public key "Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch@eckner.net>" imported
[22:13:29] <tyzoid> gpg: key 74EDA3C6B06D0506: public key "Tyler Dence (Build Key) <tyzoid@archlinux32.org>" imported
[22:13:29] <tyzoid> gpg: Total number processed: 5
[22:13:30] <tyzoid> gpg: imported: 5
[22:13:34] <tyzoid> Those are all the keys in the transition package
[22:13:35] <tyzoid> FYI
[22:16:11] <deep42thought> ok
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[22:24:07] <tyzoid> wb abaumann: You missed the fun
[22:24:15] <tyzoid> as usual
[22:24:19] <tyzoid> xD
[22:24:19] <abaumann> yeah. just read some of the notes.. :-)
[22:25:04] <abaumann> so, keys are expiring..
[22:26:45] <tyzoid> Rather, deep42thought's signing key is expiring
[22:26:57] <abaumann> urgh..
[22:26:59] <tyzoid> in just a few days
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[22:27:32] <tyzoid> He's got a new key, which he signed with his master and I signed with my master
[22:27:44] <tyzoid> Not sure yet if his key has a third master sig on it or not
[22:28:04] <tyzoid> But I think he'll get that by tomorrow sometime if he doesn't have it already
[22:28:39] <abaumann> ah ok. just wanted to say: singing with my key is not the best idea.. there were issues in the past. :-)
[22:28:49] <abaumann> *signing
[22:28:53] <tyzoid> abaumann: The majority of the issues we had were because your key was new
[22:29:04] <abaumann> ah. :-)
[22:29:14] <tyzoid> The issue we're trying to avoid is people who delayed migration until now
[22:29:27] <tyzoid> so that if they install the keyring-transition, they can install arch32-keyring without issues
[22:29:59] <abaumann> yeah.. this continues to be an issue.. people coming from old 32-bit archlinux will always have to go trough the transition.
[22:30:18] <tyzoid> Well my signing key is in the transition, so the plan is to have me sign the new archlinux32-keyring package
[22:30:41] <abaumann> ah.. ok.
[22:31:08] <tyzoid> If you look at the logs, I extracted the transition package, so you can see all the keys that were included in that
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[22:34:41] <tyzoid> deep42thought / girls: Looks like you've got a second key that's in the keyring: http://pgp.mit.edu
[22:34:53] <tyzoid> looks valid until May 2019
[22:35:21] <tyzoid> the transition keyring, that is
[22:37:47] <tyzoid> So if you've still got that key, either yours or mine would work.
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